eGroups Daily Digest: afb has 93 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45942 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 45942. Gerald Mellor Re: Expanding a pic for a wb backdrop 45943. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: Translucent CDs 45944. dial@otenet.gr POLL: IRC 45945. Wesley Potter Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 45946. Peter Gordon Re: G3/G4 cards 45947. Matthew Garrett Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 45948. Alexander Birrell Re: V 45949. Alexander Birrell Re: 68060 Challenge 45950. Alexander Birrell Re: Connection speeds 45951. Peter Gordon Re: G3/G4 cards 45952. Peter Gordon Re: G3/G4 cards 45953. Gerald Mellor Re: Internet costs 45954. Gerald Mellor Re: CD ROM 45955. Andy Kinsella Re: phase 5: Dead or Alive? 45956. Kevin Fairhurst Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 45957. Rick Hodger Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 45958. Rick Hodger Re: G3/G4 cards 45959. Rick Hodger Re: G3/G4 cards 45960. Rick Hodger Re: G3/G4 cards 45961. Ben Chapman Re: Sim City 2000 45962. Gerald Mellor Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 45963. =?iso-8859-1?B?eAc=?= AF134 Cover 45964. Kevin Fairhurst Re: G3/G4 cards 45965. Gerald Mellor Re: G3/G4 cards 45966. Alkis Tsapanidis Re: Internet costs 45967. Kevin Fairhurst Re: G3/G4 cards 45968. Gerald Mellor Re: G3/G4 cards 45969. Chris Green Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 45970. Gerald Mellor Re: Internet costs 45971. Alex Furmanski Re: java 'n' hex 45972. Alex Furmanski Re: Apologies 45973. Alex Furmanski Re: Translucent CDs 45974. =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement t 45975. =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= Re: OT (ish) Mounting brackets 45976. =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= Reader games in new ish 45977. Alex Furmanski Re: AF134 Cover 45978. Samuel Byford Re: POLL: IRC 45979. =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= A1200 soundcards + Prelude 45980. Matthew O'Neill html horror 45981. Matthew O'Neill Re: Connection speeds 45982. =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= Re: motherboard revision 45983. Jonathan M. Dudley Re: A crappy announcement to have to make 45984. Jonathan M. Dudley Re: Translucent CDs 45985. Matthew Garrett Re: G3/G4 cards 45986. Sandy Brownlee AFCD50 45987. Matthew Garrett Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 45988. Daniel Thornton Re: POLL: IRC 45989. Matthew Garrett Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 45990. Jonathan M. Dudley Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement t 45991. Matthew Garrett Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 45992. Alex Furmanski "The World's Best Selling Amiga Mag" 45993. Sandy Brownlee Re: Apologies 45994. Peter Gordon Re: G3/G4 cards 45995. Chris Andrews Re: Apologies 45996. Alex Furmanski Re: html horror 45997. Kevin Fairhurst Re: POLL: IRC 45998. Dave Cole Re: Problem with IOBlix and 3.5 45999. Kevin Fairhurst Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 46000. Jonathan M. Dudley Re: Apologies 46001. Jon Barker Re: CD ROM 46002. Paul Cundle Re: java 'n' hex 46003. Alkis Tsapanidis Re: POLL: IRC 46004. Paul Cundle Re: Apologies 46005. Samuel Byford Re: 46006. Samuel Byford Re: Apologies 46007. Samuel Byford Re: POLL: IRC 46008. Andrew Crowe Re: Checksums, Hard Disks and Money. 46009. Nick Darley-Jones Advertising the Amiga. 46010. Andrew Crowe Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement t 46011. Andrew Crowe Re: motherboard revision 46012. Gerald Mellor Re: A crappy announcement to have to make 46013. Carl Berry Re: A crappy announcement to have to make 46014. Nick Darley-Jones PowerOS on Osnews 46015. Gerald Mellor Re: POLL: IRC 46016. Nick Darley-Jones Getting some old games to work. 46017. Gerald Mellor Re: POLL: IRC 46018. Jonathan Day Re: Platinum Suite 2000 (was POLL: Microsoft Offi 46019. Jonathan Day Re: I, Ron Maiden (was A crappy announcement to h 46020. Gerald Mellor Re: CD ROM 46021. Daniel Thornton Re: POLL: IRC 46022. Neil Bullock Re: POLL: IRC 46023. Jonathan Day Re: Translucent CDs 46024. Jonathan Day Re: I, Ron Maiden (was A crappy announcement to h 46025. Jonathan Day Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 46026. Jonathan Day Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement t 46027. Matthew Garrett Re: POLL: IRC 46028. Gerald Mellor Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement t 46029. Gerald Mellor Re: POLL: IRC 46030. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= YAM Charsets... 46031. roger buckley Re: Expanding a pic for a wb backdrop 46032. roger buckley Re: OS 3.5 and memory problems[WARNING] 46033. roger buckley Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending fre 46034. Daniel Thornton Re: POLL: IRC ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 45942 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45942 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:09:28 +0000 In-reply-to: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Expanding a pic for a wb backdrop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Feb 00, at 16:34, Simon Jenkins wrote: > Is there another proram which will expand this and other pics for me? Try GfxCon (gfx/conv) Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45943 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45943 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:11:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Translucent CDs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Ben Vost wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone who already has AF134 had a look at the CD yet? Can you tell me > if you can see through it and whether your drive reads it? mine isnt see-through - and it reads fine :-) alan ------------------------------ message 45944 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45944 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 11:14:52 -0800 From: dial@otenet.gr X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] POLL: IRC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 7/2/2k Which IRC server/channel do ya use? ---- Please select one or more of the following: o ARCnet/#Amiga o DALnet/#AmIRC o EFnet/#AmIRC o AmigaNet/#Amiga o GR-Net/#AmigaHellas o One of these servers other channel o Other server o I don't use IRC by going to the following Web form: http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=949950892611&listname=afb Thank you! ------------------------------ message 45945 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45945 From: Wesley Potter Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:30:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending frenzy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andy On 06-Feb-00, you wrote: > As Dpaint 5 is only 20 quid, and Ppaint 7.1 is about 25/30 quid (it was > 30 when I bought it so long ago, probably less now) there's no reason > not to own both... Unless you use a graphics card, then Dpaint is > almost useless. I bought PPaint 7.1 for a tenner at last years WOA. Bargain and a half that one. Regards -- Wesley Potter wesley.potter@btinternet.com mailto:wezza@http://www.amigaworkshop.currantbun.com ICQ: 34306277 IRC: #ssamiga (Saturdays 9pm) ------------------------------ message 45946 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45946 From: Peter Gordon Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:13:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > ...and that's my point. Having the card as autoconfig is going to disa= ble > the m/b's 020 and leave only the PPC CPU trying to run 68k code. You > *need* a 68k CPU to at least startup and get the emulator running. AAAaaaargh! no you dont! Put an emulator on a ROM to a LOCAL BUS to the P= PC CPU. When you press the on switch, the PPC's startup vector points to = this emulation. Its running before the card is even configured. THE CYBERSTORM G4 FOR THE A4000 HAS NO 68K CPU. NEITHER DOES THE MOTHERBO= ARD. THERE..... IS..... NO...... 68K!!!!!!! -- = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D so long and thanks for all the fish http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =2E.. (0x2B|!0x2B), that is the question. ------------------------------ message 45947 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45947 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:17:57 +0000 References: <20000207184204.A26740@cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: ; from Kevin Fairhurst on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 06:49:53PM +0000 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending frenzy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 06:49:53PM +0000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote: > ta I wouldn't look too hard - it was very, very bad. Although it did have pretty pictures. At least, that was the 1991 version - I don't know what later versions were like. If that fails, you could give RDPrep a try - it's on Aminet, and I'm pretty sure it lets you set reselection in the RDB. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 45948 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45948 From: Alexander Birrell Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:13:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rick After reading some mails from people who had tried the sight I bit the bullet and went to the site it worked fine, except you can't get in because of the JScript. I talked to him about it and he said it didn't sound like the same site , so he is going to mail me the url and I will try again. On 05-Feb-00, you wrote: >> This isn't particularly about this thread but I thought every body >> might lke to know this. My mate was accessing some sites for his >> daughter, for school, and he went to the Gucci site, as in designer >> clothes, it told him to leave as he wasn't using Microsoft programs then >> told him they were going to shut his computer down, which they did >> somehow, and trashed the partition on his hard drive. Isn't this taking >> things a bit far!! I havn't attempted to confirm this but if anyone >> want's to try feel free!! > If they did, then he has every right to take them to court. Things like > that would be considered "hacking" (gaining remote unauthorised access to > a computer suystem with intent to cause damage, or summit :) -- Don't Worry, Be Happy Sandy E-Mail: sandy@birrell.prestel.co.uk http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/ IRC: Sandyb in #Rabble uk3.arcnet.vapor.com Port:6667 http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/Rabbled ICQ : 41266150 ------------------------------ message 45949 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45949 From: Alexander Birrell Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:30:02 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20000206222616.11407.qmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: 68060 Challenge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ant On 06-Feb-00, you wrote: >. A major problem is that most people who are > selling their A1200s won't know what motherboard > revision it is. Why not just ask if you can open their 1200s up and check the rev number, it's hardly going to affect the warrenty :-) -- Don't Worry, Be Happy Sandy E-Mail: sandy@birrell.prestel.co.uk http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/ IRC: Sandyb in #Rabble uk3.arcnet.vapor.com Port:6667 http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/Rabbled ICQ : 41266150 ------------------------------ message 45950 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45950 From: Alexander Birrell Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:44:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Connection speeds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ken On 06-Feb-00, you wrote: > Hello Gerald >> On 06-Feb-00, Simon Jenkins wrote: >> >>> Hi ppl, I seem to be stuck with slow con speeds, and I often get a >>> 41.333k conn to my ISP, with 42.666 fairly often, and only once >>> every so often, a 44k. >>> Des anyone know why? >> >> You're using a 56k modem? Those speeds are pretty good, remember 56k >> is just the theoretical maximum possible connection speed, I doubt >> you'll ever get close to it though. AFAIK, 44k is a pretty respectable >> connection speed. > as i write this my speed is 49333 it is 50000+ usually My speeds are about the same 52000 most of the time dropping to 50666 if I happen to get a bad line.This is with Prestel with Free4all it never goes above 49000at any time. -- Don't Worry, Be Happy Sandy E-Mail: sandy@birrell.prestel.co.uk http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/ IRC: Sandyb in #Rabble uk3.arcnet.vapor.com Port:6667 http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/Rabbled ICQ : 41266150 ------------------------------ message 45951 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45951 From: Peter Gordon Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:16:28 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Hey you little cheater. That de-activates said CPU card! :- = > But it is something built into the card, as I don't remember any other > accelerators other than phase5's having that sort of feature. > So it could be possible, to load up the 68k emulator using the 020 and = then > swicth over...ha! ;) NO! NONONONONONONOOOOOOOO!!!! IT.. IS... NOT... POSSIBLE! NngnGgnhHHhhH! I have official commodore documentation for the autoconfig protocol. When= you hold down 2, presumably the Blizzard card goes into "shut-up" mode (= thats what it is actually called, btw.) Thus a hard reset is needed to us= e ANY of the cards hardware again. No software (IE the emulator) can surv= ive a hard reset. Not even cold capture ones. Comprende? -- = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D so long and thanks for all the fish http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Real meanings #19: FORTRAN: FORd TRANsit ------------------------------ message 45952 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45952 From: Peter Gordon Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:19:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > Surely there will be some sort of "switch" to go from "i'm the 68k > accessing something" to "i'm the g4 accessing something"? Well, presumably the virtual 68k would just be another task running on th= e native PPC kernel, so the only switch would be a perfectly ordinary tas= k switch. No more, no less. Like the Z80 in speculator running alongside = workbench... -- = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D so long and thanks for all the fish http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Real meanings #18: AOL: Arseholes Online ------------------------------ message 45953 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45953 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:23:37 +0000 In-reply-to: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Internet costs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7 Feb 00, at 20:36, Alkis Tsapanidis wrote: > how much are the Internet phone rate in the UK??? If you're talking about standard BT local call rates, then it costs: For 1 hour Monday-Friday 8:00-18:00 - =A32.40 For 1 hour Monday-Friday before 8:00 & after 18:00 - =A30.90 For 1 hour Weekend (midnight Friday - midnight Sunday) - =A30.60 Some ISPs also have special offers, such as offering 0800 (free) calls at certain times. And you can get some discounts from BT. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45954 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45954 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:28:03 +0000 In-reply-to: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: CD ROM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Feb 00, at 18:41, Sandy Brownlee wrote: > I've tried reducing the drive in speed from 8x using SetAtapiSpeed, but the > problem persists. Any ideas? I don't want to have to replace this as well, > since I'm already skint. I know you don't want to hear it, but when my CD-ROM started acting up like that the way i fixed it was by buying myself a new one... I've had no problems since. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45955 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45955 From: Andy Kinsella Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 22:52:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: phase 5: Dead or Alive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings James On 04-Feb-00, you wrote: > Hello Ben > On 04-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote: >> >>> They've had my CSPPC board since mid-October, been promising to >>> send a replacement since November, and now I find that my emails >>> are bouncing, and phone calls and faxes are going unanswered. >> >>> I've spoken to their customer services manager several times, each >>> time he's promised to send my card out the next day. Are they >>> always like this? >> Yes, they're always like this and there are currently bad rumours >> bowing around the Amiga market about them... > I *really* don't like the sound of that, what exactly are these > rumours? I've not heard or seen anything myself. Rumours are just that. Start getting worried when there are cold, hard facts. > Cheers. Regards Andy -- Imagine textures and a few pictures@ /PGP Key available on request/ Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------ message 45956 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45956 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 7 Feb 2000 19:32:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20000207191757.B26740@cam.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending frenzy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:17:57 +0000, Matthew Garrett (mjg59@cam.ac.uk) wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 06:49:53PM +0000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote: > > > ta > > I wouldn't look too hard - it was very, very bad. Although it did have > pretty pictures. At least, that was the 1991 version - I don't know what > later versions were like. If that fails, you could give RDPrep a try - > it's on Aminet, and I'm pretty sure it lets you set reselection in the > RDB. Ahhh, you've not been following this thread well have you? My problem is with a CD drive, not a hard drive. FastPrefs was of no use either (it was on the A4008 installation disk) as that is hard drive only ... Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 45957 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45957 From: Rick Hodger Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:02:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87kt1s$iu6h@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched as leu99mib@reading.ac.uk hammered "[afb] Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600" out on their keyboard... > I have an old A600 (my first Amiga - I could not afford an A1200 at the > time...) which has Kickstart 2.04 and never worked with 2.5inch HDs. I > have found out that this maybe because kickstart 2.04 did not have > scsi.device in it like Kickstart 2.05 did. I'm not too sure about that, I know it was touted around for some time, but I never had any problems using a 2.5" hard-disk in the A600 I've got here. > What I am wounding is if I > can take a Rom image from 3.1 Roms in a A2000 so that I can softboot my > A600 with 3.1 and use a harddisk on it? Why not just use the A2000? Seriously....you're better off with it than an A600. -- Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces Famous last words: What happens if you touch these two wires tog-- ------------------------------ message 45958 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45958 From: Rick Hodger Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:15:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched as Kevin Fairhurst hammered "[afb] Re: G3/G4 cards" out on their keyboard... > On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 19:15:23 +0000, Peter Gordon > (mrtickle@amiga4k.ndo.co.uk) wrote: >> Hi, > 'lo >> >> I'm sorry but you appear to be speaking with an apparent authority >> >> despite an obvious lack of understanding of computer architecture... >> >>> ROTFL .... said it far better than I could ;-) >> >> Why thankyou :) > np >> >> Crap. The 68k emulator doesn't *know *anything. Its just running on >> >> the G4. >>> In theory the 68k emulation could be programmed with some AI ... >> Well, personally I can't think of any extra features that would need to >> be included in the emulation itself. Say for example they included some >> method of passing values back to native G4 CPU registers, that would mean >> using opcodes that would be illegal on the 68k range. I'd rather have a >> 68k emulation with exactly ZERO extras, that way you can make it more >> compatible with the real thing iyswim. > Surely they can add extras that make things better without screwing up the > compatibility. You know, new instructions or something that make stuff > like context switching or memory sharing between the real and virtual cpu > a lot easier ... >>> Hey, I'd forgotten that, and I'm using an A4000! :) >> >> Same here. Nice arent they? :) I'm getting a G4 for mine. > Very nice ... i've already got an 060/PPC card for mine (and what a lot of > hassle getting THAT was!) so I'm gonna wait on the G4 for now ... >> >> Hahaha! When you put +5v into the PPC, it will start up like any >> >> processor. Just make the startup vector point to a 68k emulation on a >> >> rom the local bus, and it'll start the moment you hit the on switch, >> >> before the card has even autoconfigured. So there. :) >>> Yup. Only way to do it. Easiest way to do it too. Thus an incredibly >>> sensible way to bloody do it! >> As well as being the cheapest, most secure (antivirus), most reliable and >> idiotproof way. :) Secure? If they put it on a ROM, it'd be a Flash ROM (like the existing PPC cards) to make updates to the emulator possible....if they do that, what's to stop someone writing a virus to wipe the ROM? It's not like it hasn't been done before, think of all those PC owners who found themselves with unusable motherboards after the chernobal (I think?) virus. -- Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces Nothing ever goes away. ------------------------------ message 45959 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45959 From: Rick Hodger Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:13:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched as Kevin Fairhurst hammered "[afb] Re: G3/G4 cards" out on their keyboard... > On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 11:27:28 +0000, Rick Hodger (rick.thehub@bigfoot.com) > wrote: >> I watched as Kevin Fairhurst hammered "[afb] Re: G3/G4 cards" out on >> their keyboard... > [snip!] >> > Bzzzzt! The 68k emulation would have to boot the miggy. That "slightly >> > odd" memory card will conflict with the 020. The PPC will use the same >> > data and address lines as the 020 (pretty much) and thus will CONFLICT. >> > Without extra hardware on the A1200 m/b you can not have the 020 going >> > and another CPU (PPC or 68k or Crusoe or whatever) running the miggy, >> > even if the 020 is only used to "boot" the G4 card ... >> Well, I don't know anything about data and address lines, but I can't see >> it being an autoconfig card with a ROM. From what I know of the Kickstart >> startup (it runs the 020 to do this, it checks for external CPUs, then >> memory and then anything else. You'd need to get it to check for >> "anything else" before checking for an external CPU, which would mean >> selling a stack of rewritten kickstart ROMs with the boards. > Well there's that as well then ;) > Hmmm so if you want to sell a new CPU card to anyone, do you want them to > have to change their roms too? nope. Every day we get another reason as t > owhy you can't be using the 020 ;-) >> > That's okay in theory, but the problem is still the 020 and the CPU on >> > the non auto-config card sharing the same address and data lines. You >> > can't do that. What'd be the point of having 68k emulation anyway if >> > you're able to use the 020 on the motherboard anyway? ;-) >> Cause a G4 running 68k emulation is hell of a lot faster than a crappy >> EC020 :) > Hey, I can't believe I didn't think of that! :-) > However, one point that has struck me, everyone has been going on about > G4s being able to emulate an 060 - but is that what we want, given the > fact that kickstart isn't quite compatible with it. So what CPU is it best > to emulate? a full 030 with 68882 or an 040 or what? Probably be best to just emulate an 030, afaik it's the closest code-wise to an 020....except for an 020 :) -- Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces They told me I was gullible .. and I believed them. ------------------------------ message 45960 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45960 From: Rick Hodger Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:22:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87mbob$6s7g@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched as Matthew J Fletcher hammered "[afb] Re: G3/G4 cards" out on their keyboard... > "kevin fairhurst" wrote: >> Yeah, evidently some people on here thought that they could use the >> slow-poke EC020 to get the G4 card going ... sheesh, kids today huh? Hey, all I suggested was that 020 could load up the emulator, I wasn't suggesting that the 020 tell te G4 what to do. > ;-) > They were technicly right, but its not important really. Its why the P5 > cards HAVE to use a 68k cpu to startup. >> Well that's what I thought, but the 040 is generally considered a > better >> processor, isn't it? And surely "they" can actually put back what >> Motorolla removed from the silicon, and thus we'd have a hybrid CPU > being >> emulated - an 040 with extra instructions. Okay, you'd need to stop >> Setpatch doing it's stuff with the 68040.library but that's not > difficult, >> is it? >> >> Oh, and if they do go the 030/882 route, are there any problems with > that >> which can be fixed in our funky new emulation? Seems pointless > keeping the >> problems, unless of course there is software which already works > around >> them, and which would break under a fixed CPU ... > It doesnt matter what CPU you emulate (you could call it the 070 if you > want), as long as it supports all the instructions that normal amiga > programs use. There is no requirement to emulate a CPU exactly, you > just need a generic 68k cpu emulator. Nah...calling it an 070 would cause no end of problems, but with all the different versions of programs, you do need to know which one to use. -- Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself. ------------------------------ message 45961 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45961 From: Ben Chapman Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:39:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Sim City 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stephen > Has anybody out there got Sim City 2000? If you have have do you get the > error "missing resource - text 3000" etc, if you query a library and click > on the ruminate button? > Yes mine is a legal version of the game but I've had no replies from Epic > so I'm asking here. I've got the original version from years ago, but i don't get that bug. Best Regards Ben Chapman Digital Images ------------------------------ message 45962 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45962 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:50:51 +0000 In-reply-to: References: <87kt1s$iu6h@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Feb 00, at 19:02, Rick Hodger wrote: >> I have an old A600 (my first Amiga - I could not afford an A1200 at the >> time...) which has Kickstart 2.04 and never worked with 2.5inch HDs. I >> have found out that this maybe because kickstart 2.04 did not have >> scsi.device in it like Kickstart 2.05 did. > > I'm not too sure about that, I know it was touted around for some time, but > I never had any problems using a 2.5" hard-disk in the A600 I've got here. Well I've never heard of an A600 without 2.05. Did 2.04 even have the necessary stuff to handle the PCMCIA slot? Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45963 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45963 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?eAc=?= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:55:25 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] AF134 Cover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: david@cedar50.freeserve.co.uk If it has to be a flat cardboard cover can we at least have one that doesn't closely resemble my Computer Shopper ones? PS I am including my email address as I still cannot get my (Outlook Express) mailer to show me anything other than // or [] or some other variant. Any clues anyone?? David, The Dog formerly known as Prince. ------------------------------ message 45964 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45964 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 7 Feb 2000 19:52:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:15:44 +0000, Rick Hodger (rick.thehub@bigfoot.com) wrote: > >> As well as being the cheapest, most secure (antivirus), most reliable and > >> idiotproof way. :) > > Secure? If they put it on a ROM, it'd be a Flash ROM (like the existing PPC > cards) to make updates to the emulator possible....if they do that, what's > to stop someone writing a virus to wipe the ROM? It's not like it hasn't > been done before, think of all those PC owners who found themselves with > unusable motherboards after the chernobal (I think?) virus. Yes that's a possiblity. However, if it's securely protected then nothing but a specific updater will be able to edit it. And why have a FlashROM, if they get it right first time? ;-) Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 45965 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45965 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:55:25 +0000 In-reply-to: References: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Feb 00, at 19:13, Rick Hodger wrote: >> On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 11:27:28 +0000, Rick Hodger (rick.thehub@bigfoot.com) >> wrote: >>> I watched as Kevin Fairhurst hammered "[afb] Re: G3/G4 cards" out on >>> their keyboard... [snipped entire mail with single line reply at bottom] > Probably be best to just emulate an 030, afaik it's the closest code-wise to > an 020....except for an 020 :) Aaaaargh! when did quoting become so lax on this mailing list?? Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45966 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45966 From: Alkis Tsapanidis Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:57:11 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200002071924.TAA29752@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Internet costs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi > For 1 hour Monday-Friday 8:00-18:00 - 2.40 > For 1 hour Monday-Friday before 8:00 & after 18:00 - 0.90 > For 1 hour Weekend (midnight Friday - midnight Sunday) - 0.60 About the same here.Here it's: For 1 hour 8:00-22:00 120 drachma(about 0.20 pounds) For 1 hour 22:00-8:00 60 drachma(about 0.10 pounds) Cheers -- Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!! ------------------------------ message 45967 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45967 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 7 Feb 2000 19:56:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:22:26 +0000, Rick Hodger (rick=2Ethehub@bigfoot=2Eco= m) wrote: > I watched as Matthew J Fletcher hammered "[afb] Re: G3/G4 cards" out on > their keyboard=2E=2E=2E >=20 > > "kevin fairhurst" wrote:=20 >=20 > >> Yeah, evidently some people on here thought that they could use the > >> slow-poke EC020 to get the G4 card going =2E=2E=2E sheesh, kids today = huh?=20 >=20 > Hey, all I suggested was that 020 could load up the emulator, I wasn't > suggesting that the 020 tell te G4 what to do=2E It would have to start the whole CPU card, which is done in the autoconfig stage of the boot cycle=2E No autoconfig, no way of running the G4 card=2E= =20 Have software in sys:Expansion and kick it off with a Binddrivers command?= =20 No way hos=E9, cos you can't run ANYTHING (eg 68k emulation) on the G4 card until it's been introduced to the system=2E And if you can't run anything = on it, you can't introduce it to the system=2E Therefore Autoconfig is the ONLY way, the m/b 020 cannot be used as you suggested, and I rest my case=2E Kev --=20 Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 45968 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45968 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:58:19 +0000 In-reply-to: References: <87mbob$6s7g@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Feb 00, at 19:22, Rick Hodger wrote: >> It doesnt matter what CPU you emulate (you could call it the 070 if you >> want), as long as it supports all the instructions that normal amiga >> programs use. There is no requirement to emulate a CPU exactly, you >> just need a generic 68k cpu emulator. > > Nah...calling it an 070 would cause no end of problems, but with all the > different versions of programs, you do need to know which one to use. I think the point he was making was that it really doesn't matter what you call the instruction set that the G4 is emulating, it just needs to be a generic 68k emulator, capable of running programs compiled for any variation of 68k processor, be it 68000, 68030+68882, 68060 or whatever. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45969 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45969 From: "Chris Green" Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:03:47 -0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending frenzy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi > I bought PPaint 7.1 for a tenner at last years WOA. Bargain and a > half that Well I'm pleased to say that I've ploughed a good few hundred quid into my Amiga in the last month (in addition to the 600 I spent at WOA and the 200 over Christmas). All this stuff was bought from retailers: X-Surf Ethernet Card - 80 Ariadne II Ethernet Card - 80 4-way IDE Interface - 20 Oktagon 2008 SCSI Card - 40 Picasso II Graphics Card - 35 Picollo SD 64 Graphics Card - 75 3.1 ROMs - 25 Zorro Scandoubler/Flickerfixer - 65 16Mb Ram - 35 Total - 455 I have got to get out more :) Chris Green Technical Editor - Computing VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG .................................................................. Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160 Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk ICQ: 10921400 URL: http://computing.vnunet.com .................................................................. ------------------------------ message 45970 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45970 From: "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:05:29 +0000 In-reply-to: References: <200002071924.TAA29752@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Internet costs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Feb 00, at 21:57, Alkis Tsapanidis wrote: > About the same here.Here it's: > For 1 hour 8:00-22:00 120 drachma(about 0.20 pounds) > For 1 hour 22:00-8:00 60 drachma(about 0.10 pounds) Looks a lot cheaper to be online in Greece :) Bauglir ------------------------------ message 45971 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45971 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:55:47 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: java 'n' hex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul > > eval again > > > 41.0> eval 2 + 2 > > 5 > > Something to add to my last reply. If I do "5/2" or "5\2" it > gives 2 instead of the traditional 2.5 and according to Manual by MAUI > this can't be changed. Also, if you do > > Eval 2.1 + 4.6 > > you might at least expect 6 as an answer, but it prefers the answer 2 > :( I seem to remember AMOS had a similar real-number-block when I used to use it... Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: It is still illegal in many parts of the world to use any vegetable other than carrots for the purposes of gambling. ------------------------------ message 45972 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45972 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:58:57 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Apologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ben > Hi all who have their issues, > > Apologies for the sellotape fiercely attaching the CD to the cover of the > mag. It was supposed to be snot, but I guess something got mixed up... My subscription copy had no sellotape at all - the CD was wedged in the pages. In fact, it's never been sellotaped ever before. I hope I get my snot next time. WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET MY SNOT?!?!?!?! I've even renewed my sub and everything. Sob Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: It is still illegal in many parts of the world to use any vegetable other than carrots for the purposes of gambling. ------------------------------ message 45973 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45973 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:03:15 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Translucent CDs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya > Has anyone who already has AF134 had a look at the CD yet? Can you tell me > if you can see through it and whether your drive reads it? See through it? I can see through it in the same way as you could see through those eclipse glasses (which I doubted but worked very well). Seriously now, I can just about (ie - make out lightbulbs and car headlights) and my hifi reads it, as does the 32x on my Amiga and the (ridiculous) 48x on my PC. Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: It is still illegal in many parts of the world to use any vegetable other than carrots for the purposes of gambling. ------------------------------ message 45974 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45974 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement to have to make) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- Kevin Fairhurst wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 11:10:42 +0000, Ben Vost > (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > >> All the big games which will probably sell > about 500 copies each, max... > > > > > Are you serious? Is this about how many copies > of WipEout were sold? > > > > IIRC, I think only about 300 copies of WipEout > were sold, since by then, it > > was the end of the week following launch and > everyone that wanted a pirated > > version had it by then... :( Of course, it always helps if people can buy the hardware required to run the game in the first place. Though I would love to buy a copy of Wipeout, the chances of me getting a PPC card are virtually nil, and the chances of me getting a BVision are similar, because no-one makes the damned things any more (except the BVision, for the pedantic). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 45975 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45975 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OT (ish) Mounting brackets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I used to have some, but i must have binned them cos > i had no use for > them a few years ago. You could always vandelise > some old IBM boxes for > stuff? I got one from my girlfriend's dad recently, to add another hard disk to hger PC, so you should be able to get them from somewhere. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 45976 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45976 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:12:58 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Reader games in new ish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What are the reader games in the new ish? I sent a few in, and want to know if AF got them, despite the fact that I neamed the archive wrongly when I uploaded them. Doh! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 45977 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45977 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: <002e01bf71a5$4795b7c0$aa1e883e@r9z3t8> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:19:10 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AF134 Cover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi David > If it has to be a flat cardboard cover can we at least have > one that doesn't closely resemble my Computer Shopper ones? > > PS I am including my email address as I still cannot get my > (Outlook Express) mailer to show me anything other than // > or [] or some other variant. Any clues anyone?? Re-install it :-) Or check that your name is set up properly in the Accounts menu. Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: It is still illegal in many parts of the world to use any vegetable other than carrots for the purposes of gambling. ------------------------------ message 45978 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45978 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 12:25:05 -0800 From: "Samuel Byford" In-Reply-To: <87n5jc+tk9i@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: IRC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 7/2/2k Which IRC server/channel do ya use? > > o ARCnet/#Amiga > o DALnet/#AmIRC > o EFnet/#AmIRC > o AmigaNet/#Amiga > o GR-Net/#AmigaHellas > o One of these servers other channel > o Other server > o I don't use IRC Ok, I have a list, top of the list is my most used, bottom is the infrequent visit sites: ICENet: #Kickstart AmIRC: #Pub BeyondIRC: HarryHomers (this is an Amiga site - hello Redvers) Unernet: #AmIRC AmIRC: #AmIRC Dalnet: #AmIRC Dalnet: #Amiga Dalnet: #AmigaGames TTFN Bifford the Youngest. Member of Kickstart, the one and only! ------------------------------ message 45979 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45979 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:25:26 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] A1200 soundcards + Prelude MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay, I dug out AF122 and read the review of the Prelude 1200 card. I decided to get one, and, for anyone interested in buying one, but worried about the info in last month's AF, Eyetech have them in stock for 129.95! Excellent. Mine should come tomorrow! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 45980 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45980 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 23:09:46 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] html horror MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ok this is driving me mad. I have an index file which has the line: Now this should call a script called gif.js in a drawer called js right? This file contains the following: This script should make the index.html file change to index_png.html which then links to all the whatever_png.html files in my page. but none of the 3 browsers do it :/ in fact V is the only one which does the rollover images :p Im using this code to preload the images: Then each image has code similar to this: Main Can anyone help me? Mash -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash I don't trust President Clinton...OR her husband! ------------------------------ message 45981 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45981 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 22:31:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Connection speeds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06-Feb-00, Simon Jenkins wrote: > Is there something wrong with my setup, or is it the phone line? I'm on an > extension upstairs, maybe that has something to do with it? > My conn speed is 42667 on this connection. The @connectfree part in your email address basically sums it up. Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash "If I could reach you, I would hurt you, Pinky" -- The Brain ------------------------------ message 45982 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45982 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:27:41 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: motherboard revision MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit According to the Eyetech website, the most common motherboard in England was the 1d1. I've opened up 4 1200s now, and 2 have been 1d4s, and the other two have been 2bs. Damn! Does anyone have a 1d1? Or are they purely mythical? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 45983 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45983 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:08:27 +0000 From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: A crappy announcement to have to make MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Vost wrote: >> Just sent off a reg for Visual prefs, maybe I might just do mui and mcp >> aswell? Umm hang on, I just checked the mui reg program, and I'm not >> paying =A320 for it! I'll stick with my limited version until I see what 4= .0 > > Ah well, if it's not worth registering, it shouldn't be on your hard driv= e, > should it? Bit of a bummer if you don't particularly want MUI, but have to use it to enable another piece of software that you *do* want, surely? Regards, Jonny (managing without MUI - so far). ------------------------------ message 45984 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45984 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:31:31 +0000 From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Translucent CDs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Vost wrote: > Has anyone who already has AF134 had a look at the CD yet? Can you tell me > if you can see through it and whether your drive reads it? I don't know if it's translucent, but Dad was using it OK earlier. Regards, Jonny. -- Are you an 'orrible Borrible? http://www.theborribles.co.uk ------------------------------ message 45985 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45985 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:38:09 +0000 References: In-Reply-To: ; from Rick Hodger on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:15:44PM +0000 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:15:44PM +0000, Rick Hodger wrote: > Secure? If they put it on a ROM, it'd be a Flash ROM (like the existing PPC > cards) to make updates to the emulator possible....if they do that, what's > to stop someone writing a virus to wipe the ROM? It's not like it hasn't > been done before, think of all those PC owners who found themselves with > unusable motherboards after the chernobal (I think?) virus. Put a jumper on the card that disables writing to the ROM, and ship it with it in that position. If anyone gets their card wiped, they've noone to blame but themselves :) -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 45986 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45986 From: Sandy Brownlee Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:36:51 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] AFCD50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Thanks to whoever put Pranger onto the latest CD. I'll not ask what anyone thinks of my programming "talent," as it'd only get the good Blitzers complaining... Regards, Sandy Brownlee -- Sandy Brownlee OS3.5 & PPC Powered! Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sent using YAM 2.0 ---------------------------------- Why should I bother typing out a tagline? ------------------------------ message 45987 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45987 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:46:52 +0000 References: <20000207191757.B26740@cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: ; from Kevin Fairhurst on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:32:41PM +0000 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Are you taking part in the spending frenzy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:32:41PM +0000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote: > Ahhh, you've not been following this thread well have you? My problem is > with a CD drive, not a hard drive. FastPrefs was of no use either (it was > on the A4008 installation disk) as that is hard drive only ... Whoops - sorry about that :) In that case, I seem to remember a program called gvpscsictrl or something like that that allowed you to fiddle with SCSI options for devices without an RDB. http://www.gvp-m.com/gvpscsic.lzh if you don't have a copy. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 45988 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45988 From: "Daniel Thornton" Date: 7 Feb 2000 20:42:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87n9n1$tcfe@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: IRC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 12:25:05 -0800, sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com was largin' it with these words... > Ok, I have a list, top of the list is my most used, bottom is the > infrequent > visit sites: I can usually be found hanging around #digi on Dalnet around midnight, and #creatures (and #nickabbot) on irc.webmaster.com at around the same time. All excellent channels, and all contribute to my massive phone bill. :) -- The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk --------------------------------- "The funniest website you'll ever see! (At these two domains)" *Buy your books & CD's online, from The Wibble* -- Updated: 7 February, 2000 --- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble ------------------------------ message 45989 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45989 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:49:06 +0000 References: <87kt1s$iu6h@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <87kt1s$iu6h@eGroups.com>; from leu99mib@reading.ac.uk on Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 02:36:44PM -0800 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 02:36:44PM -0800, leu99mib@reading.ac.uk wrote: > I have an old A600 (my first Amiga - I could not afford an A1200 at the > time...) which has Kickstart 2.04 and never worked with 2.5inch HDs. I > have found out that this maybe because kickstart 2.04 did not have > scsi.device in it like Kickstart 2.05 did. What I am wounding is if I > can take a Rom image from 3.1 Roms in a A2000 so that I can softboot my > A600 with 3.1 and use a harddisk on it? Assuming the 2000 ROMs contain the scsi.device for the 600, yes. You'll lose 512K of RAM in the process, though. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 45990 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45990 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:53:38 +0000 From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Big games sales (WAS: A crappy announcement to have to make) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bauglir wrote: > I know i'm just being naive, but I would have thought the sort of people > capable of running WipEout (those with a PPC and graphics card) would > also be the sort of people who *care* about the future of the Amiga, and > who aren't short of a few bob either. Ah, but they're all broke after buying the hardware to run it. ;) Which, if it were true, would be no excuse, of course. :( Damn the Jolly Roger! Regards, Jonny. -- Still no sigs... ------------------------------ message 45991 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45991 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:51:11 +0000 References: <87kt1s$iu6h@eGroups.com> <200002071951.TAA03145@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200002071951.TAA03145@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk>; from Gerald Mellor on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:50:51PM +0000 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: 3.1 Roms A2000/A600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:50:51PM +0000, Gerald Mellor wrote: > Well I've never heard of an A600 without 2.05. Did 2.04 even have the > necessary stuff to handle the PCMCIA slot? Early ones came with 37.299 - it didn't have the IDE drivers, but I'm not sure about PCMCIA support. According to http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_205.html it didn't. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 45992 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45992 From: "Alex Furmanski" Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:00:08 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] "The World's Best Selling Amiga Mag" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya I'm sure you're all leaping at the chance to read my monthly review of the mag, so here goes! First impression was good, I particularly liked the "Grateway" on the sign - how apt! I also like the contents page for some reason, just a shame about all those pics of Ben on those fake fifties ;-) Moving on, we find a picture of Ben looking like a Gremlin, and a pic of Simon Archer looking uncannily like Paul Heaton (!) Flicking further on, we find good taste in music on page 16 and a man on page 22 who seems to have mistaken his PC for a guitar. Some very nice looking previews in Screen Play too. Another good instalment in the JavaScript tutorial, top marks for Neil. And as for the drop in pages? Hardly noticeable - well done guys! Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: It is still illegal in many parts of the world to use any vegetable other than carrots for the purposes of gambling. ------------------------------ message 45993 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45993 From: Sandy Brownlee Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:57:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Apologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ben On 07-Feb-00, you wrote: >> No snot? >> No SNOT? >> NO SNOT? >> SELLOTAPE? >> BAH! > >> OK - apology accepted :) > > Just cut it off the cover. I tried to peel it off and removed most of the > cover with it... Erm, the CD was loose in my envolope. ie no snot, tape, blu tack or anything. Regards Sandy Brownlee -- Sandy Brownlee OS3.5 & PPC Powered! Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sent using YAM 2.0 ---------------------------------- Life is dangerous. You could die. ------------------------------ message 45994 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45994 From: Peter Gordon Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:09:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: G3/G4 cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, > Secure? If they put it on a ROM, it'd be a Flash ROM (like the existing PPC > cards) to make updates to the emulator possible....if they do that, what's > to stop someone writing a virus to wipe the ROM? It's not like it hasn't > been done before, think of all those PC owners who found themselves with > unusable motherboards after the chernobal (I think?) virus. Yeah, putting it on the hard drive would be MUCH safer :/ Ever heard of a write protect jumper? :) -- =================================== so long and thanks for all the fish http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle =================================== ... Actual quote from ITV daytime news, Jan 6th 2000: "Thousands of patients will flood NHS waiting rooms with flu symptoms." ------------------------------ message 45995 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45995 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:15:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Andrews In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Apologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Every man and his dog wrote something along the lines of: "It wasn't stuck, it was in the envelope". Thus, the lesson of the day is: 1) Subscribers don't have the CD stuck to the front ...and... 2) People reply to mails in the order they find them without reading the rest of the thread ;) bye, Chris. I don't want the honeymoon to last. ------------------------------ message 45996 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=45996 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:14:58 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: html horror MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew > ok this is driving me mad. I have an index file which has the line: > > > > Now this should call a script called gif.js in a drawer called js right? > This file contains the following: > >